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post #1 of 12 Old 11-09-2010, 07:12 PM Thread Starter
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Hello C-Max OC,

Currently looking at the C Max so thought I join the forum and gain some information about them.

I use to run a modded Honda Civic Type R (EP3) for 7.5 years but was told by the wife to change it to a more family friendly car so got a Jazz now.

Wife drives a Mazda6 TS2 2.0 petrol and although its perfect as a family car, we've had a couple of issues with it and despite taking it back to the dealer on numerous occasions, they claim theres nothing wrong with it.

So we are looking at replacing the Mazda6 with the C-Max- PX plus up to 2k

Been looking at the 1.6 & 1.8 petrol Zetec and Titanium and found the test drive good and the spec impressive.

However, the dealer mentioned they have a 08/08 1.8 tdci (non dfs) titanium with most of the options ticked (parking sensor, electric/heat seats, full leather interior, sports pack, 18" etc) for only 9,995.

I've read people with Diesel (DFS) models having problems so whats the differences between the one we're interested in?

Any members have any problem with the above model?

Thank you in advance.

Kind regards

Gary

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post #2 of 12 Old 11-09-2010, 09:20 PM
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I wouldn't worry too much. The car still has some warranty on it and it appears that it is mainly the mk1 models that suffer most of the problems.
The DPF filter isn't a big deal. It is fitted to reduce emissions and lower the VEL. the latest 1.6tdci are 30 a year tax.
I paid 12,000 back inMay for my 1.6tdci reg Dec 07 with 23,000 miles.
My car is very high spec and has the rare (for a1.6tdci) Titanium x pack so has the lowered suspension and 18 inch alloys as well as full leather with seat heaters etc.
I think the reason the 1.8 diesel is slightly cheaper than the 1.6 is the VEL cost and I don't think it achieves much of a performance advantage over the 1.6. I suspect that it also isheavier on fuel - but much better than a petrol of course.If the one you have looked at is a nice straight carI would buy it ahead of a petrol at the same sort of money.

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post #3 of 12 Old 11-09-2010, 09:28 PM Thread Starter
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Thanks for the reply Ollie.

The "worry" for me is that the problem we are having with our petrol Mazda6 is that it has developed the same "fault" as the Diesel that also have a DPF problem- basically the engine will "surge" and you basically have NO control of the car [img]smileys/smiley13.gif[/img] cant change gears, no pedal feel and cant seem to brake, and when it happened, you completely cack yourself.

bearing in mind we have been using the Mazda as the family car to ferry around our 9month old son, this is very worrying so hence we want to get rid as Mazda doesnt want to know or want to fix the problem so we're better chopping it then being involved in an accident due to this problem.

But sounds like the C-Max have similar problem with their DPF so just weighing things out

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post #4 of 12 Old 11-10-2010, 02:38 AM
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hi Gary and a warm welcome mate

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post #5 of 12 Old 11-10-2010, 04:40 AM
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Haway!
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DFS? Maybe DPS ( Diesel Particulate System ) or DMF ( Dual Mass Flywheel ), Both known issues, Wasn't aware of 1.8TDCI having a DPF, not to say I could be wrong!?

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post #6 of 12 Old 11-10-2010, 01:57 PM Thread Starter
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Sorry- I'm still very much a newbie but yes, I meant the DPS relating to the Diesel "problem"

My local Ford dealer has been very good so far and they are bringing the car down from Scotland so will have it at the weekend to inspect and have a good extended test drive to see if we like it or not.

Maybe just sales talk, but he said ordinarily, he wouldnt bring the car down from another branch, but as its such a rare example (in terms of spec), he knows that even if we decide not to buy it, he would be able to shift it no problem.

Will see what happens over the weekend and will update with pics hopefully and review

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post #7 of 12 Old 11-10-2010, 02:04 PM
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He is probably telling the truth about spec. When i found my car I was lucky as it was the only titanium spec car fully loaded on the whole of Autotrader and was fortunately only 20 miles away.
I suspect i wasable to buy it because the dealer hadn't advertised that the car had the x package fitted, only that it had leather. As there were no pictures in the ad it was a treat when we viewed it.

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We're pretty much in the dark about the car even though we know the spec and colour if that makes sense?

We've never driven a diesel as we thought diesel is only good if you do lots of miles, which we wont be as it will mainly be use to go to/fro town/shops/school run etc, but the fact that its fully loaded with all the toys is what applied to my wife so hence we're having a good look at it.



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post #9 of 12 Old 11-18-2010, 09:08 PM Thread Starter
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Right, now that I have a bit of time, here my review of the C-Maxes we test drove and outcome (this was posted on the forum I usual go on) :

The 1st C-max was a 1.8 petrol zetec and we went on a very short test
drive. Initial reaction was positive and really liking this as it was more family orintated in that it had privacy glass and sun
blinds built into the rear window, "airplane style" tables, rear mirror
thingy to keep eye on kids at the back etc, but the main advantage was
the price- 08/58 1.8 petrol for 9,988 and PX 8.5k again, but the
salesman said he can easily get slightly more- though he didnt specify
but I did reckon it was 9k.

Anyways, during the week, the salesman kept me updated
with other stock he had and then on the Wednesday, he informed me that
they just received an 08/08 1.8 tdci titanium with lots of toys; leather
interior, titanium x pack which includes 18" wheels, electric front
seats and some other bits and bobs and was only 9,988.

We never
considered a diesel as I thought diesel only good if you drove lots of
miles, but we were
both keen on the car so asked them to bring it down (came from Scotland)
so we can check it out and go for an extended test drive which the
salesman agreed.

So we went out on Saturday morning first thing and I went out first.

First
impression- very nice! Just sat there in the leather seats (as I didnt
know where the seat adjustments are!) while he was talking away to my missus
about the spec and how nice the interior was (and it was!). when he
told me where the switches were, adjusting the seat was such a joy as
the whole operation was very smooth.

Turned the key and diesel
engine rumbled into life- as expected, it was louder than what I'm use
to but nothing out of the oridinary. Into first gear and setting off the
forecourt and thought the bite was a bit high and juddered a lot when i
got it going but think that was more me than the car. Out of the
forecourt and on the main road, I changed to second and when it hit 2k
rpm, felt the turbo kick in up to 4k rpm.

Out on the road, i was surprised
how well it handled bearing in mind it had 18" wheels and sport
suspension as I was worried it was going to be very "crashy" and bumpy
but it was none of that. went onto the motorway and was very nice and
not at all noisy at crusing speed (60-70) and picked up nicely for when I
wanted to overtake.

Back into town driving, i chucked it into a
few corners and wasnt much body roll which again i was surprised about
as its quite a big tall car (well for little old me it is lol).

We
then swapped over and my missus took over the test drive and went back on
the motorway and she was driving quite fast! went up to 90mph and when I
pointed that out to her, she was like- oh really, didnt feel that fast (
me> almface). Told her to take it off teh motorway and do more
test drive on town driving as that what she mainly be doing with our son.
Went over a couple of speed bumps and only here can you feel the 18" and
suspension as it was very hard indeed!

Needless to say, we were both very impressed with it and decided we would take it.

The salesman showed me the parking sensor demo with him driving when we got back to the dealership. Again, never had a
car with parking sensors and was pretty impressed. I then fine
toothcomb over the entire car and paintwork and that was spotless- there
wasnt even any swirls marks anywhere! The 18" alloys were also pretty
spotless bar the front passenger one that had a slight kerbing mark, but
litereaally only pea size up to 5p piece which he said they will touch
up.

tbh, the saleman we had was very good and honest and probs
THE best car salesman I've come across, so pretty much paid the asking
price of 9,988 plus 80 for the private reg trasnfer so pending the
time for the reg transfer, we should pick up the car this weekend.

I
reckon the previous owner got 10k PX for the car and they were suppose
to add their mark up on this but he either didnt bother or jump the gun
and told me it was 10k before confirming with the boss and he did
mention on a few occasions that the car can easily be sold at 11-12k+.

Anyways,
as the car already had tax (til end April) mats and 1/2 tank of diesel,
it was such an easy sale for him in that he would give me a ful tank,
and we can get a refund on the remaining tax on the Mazda which was good
of him.

Gary

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post #10 of 12 Old 11-19-2010, 02:16 PM
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Which dealer did you use?A lot of dealers get bad press so its always good to name the ones that give good service

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