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Hi All,



Thank god for the internet!



After hours and hours of pouring over autotrader the wife
finally decided on a Mark II C-MAX



I have a list of
questions hopefully somebody can help with, I did do a search but couldn't see
a buyers guide apologies if there is one L



1 – We have 6k to spend but could possibly push to 7k, we
want to get a PETROL Zetec model but can't decide on the 1.6 OR 1.8? The wife
will only be doing 8/9k miles a year she thinks the 1.6 won't have an enough
poke (will be doing a lot of trips to Ireland) – is the 1.8 worth the extra of
the 1.6?



2 – We are going to try and buy from the local Ford dealer
(Cwmbran Ford) – I have read up on what to look for, any white gunge under the
oil cap, put the car on full lock and reverse to see if there is any knocking,
check the colour of the steering fluid (should be pinky/red), check all
electrics/switches work. anything else?




3 – The best we have seen is a 2007 – 27k miles – 1.8 zetec
up for 6,980.00 – does that sound right?



4 – any tips on haggling as it will be up to me as the wife
will hide in the boot!



Cheers all




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post #2 of 6 Old 12-07-2010, 07:09 PM
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Hello Valleyboy, welcome to the club.
Well, you seem to know what you're doing, viz buying. Check logbook, service history, and make sure the book is stamped. It is also worth checking online regarding any past theft and prangs. If you feel the need, the AA will check any car over for you, as will a good local mechanic if you ask. Get as good a guarantee as you can negotiate. I got a years parts and labour guarantee on mine, which was reassuring.
Petrols generally seem to be pretty reliable. I am sure others [better qualified than me] will let you know of the usual problems and foibles with these cars. My 1.6 has been absolutely reliable.
The 1.8 petrol is somewhat thirsty. There are posts on this site with owners complaining of very poor MPG in all circumstances, so check them out. My 1.6 gives me 33 urban and 43 on motorways with an average of 37 MPG. The 1.8 gets nowhere near these figures.
Regarding performance, I find the performance of the 1.6 perfectly adequate, others might not. If you do a large percentage of your mileage on a motorway, loaded up with stuff, it might not quite be the ticket. Again, I find mine a really good and comfortable drive on a motorway, but do wish sometimes it had a 6th gear. In these circumstances you might be better off with a 1.6 or 2.0 diesel, which has far more guts and better MPG all round. A longish test drive on a few Welsh hills and a motorway will let you know soon enough if the 1.6 petrol is for you.
Regarding prices, I have looked around sites of 2 local dealers here and your figures look about right. 07 plates on 1.8 Zetecs are between 7500 on 50,000 miles to 8500 on 12500 miles. 1.6 petrols are considerably cheaper - there are some real bargains about. Diesels are considerably more expensive, but on your mileage, you need to do the maths to see whether one of those might work out better for you. A 2007 diesel should prove to be a reliable car compared with earlier examples.
Look forward to hearing how you get on [snow permitting].


2004 1.6 petrol LX
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Thanks for the reply,



Just a few more, excuse my ignorance we haven't bought a ‘newish/modern'
car in years…



I am still trying to persuade the wife regarding the 1.6 v 1.8
petrol, 80% of the cars usage will be commuting 6 miles and the weekly
food/shopping run, it will hardly see a motorway only on a 4 o5 trips to
Ireland each year – the 1.6 is as you say a lot cheaper aswell. Just need a
good test drive.



1 – How many services should a c-max on 27k miles have had?
I know it goes by mileage and or time? It's a bit confusing how modern cars do
it



2 – If for example we bought direct from a ford dealer (or
non-ford I guess) and say it had 4 months left on the original warranty, after
say having it for a few days can you literally right a list of what you think
needs doing and just take it in? I imagine you have to fight like ****?



Cheers again


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I always drove very old SAABs before buying the Ford, so was in much the same boat as you.
If 80% of your driving is shunting about then that would seem to reinforce your notion of going for a 1.6. As I said, take one out up and down the mountains to see whether its got enough grunt for you [or rather, your wife, by the sounds of it [img]smileys/smiley17.gif[/img]]. I find mine very comfortable to drive on motorways. It does 100 mph+, which is fast enough for me, thank you very much.
Service intervals are 12500 miles between full or big services. I only do 5000 miles per year max in mine, so I have a small service [oil, plugs, fluids, etc] once a year with the MOT.
If you're going for a 2007 plate the original warranty will be well cooked. Any reputable dealer will give you a no quibble substitute for at least 6 months, even in addition to any original warranty. There are always little [and sometimes big] problems discovered once you live with a car. I had at least 3 small issues. If you look through the site you will discover some real horror stories. Nonetheless, a warranty should cover every and any eventuality - so yes, you should be able to go back with a list and have the entire cost of a satisfactory fix [no matter how many times you may have to return]borneby the dealer at no cost to yourself within the time limit of the guarantee. Just make sure you understand the dealer's warranty, and if you don't like it, walk away and go somewhere else.
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cheers and thanks for the long replies, very helpful.
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You're welcome.
Let us know what you buy, and how you find it.

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