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post #1 of 19 Old 03-26-2010, 06:59 AM Thread Starter
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Hello
just joined the forum and was looking to see if there was a buyers guide on here, i cant seem to find one if there is,
probablygoing to buy a 1.6 TDCI for the other half and was looking for some pointers on what to look out for

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post #2 of 19 Old 03-26-2010, 12:55 PM
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Hi im new on here and new to the cmax from what I looked at and read I think the 1.6TDCI Zetec Manual is best it gives the best MPG only problem is there very popular and not many on the fourcourts I had to travel 35 miles to get mine nothing local plenty of petrol ones but no diesals
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I dont know what reg or what model your thinking of getting but before someone says avoid it , I will say the E.P.B on our car has not been an issue.
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Welcome to the C-Max Owners Club.

I have the 1.6 TDCI 90BHP in a Zetec spec with optional 17 inch alloys, tinted windows and finished in Moondust Silver and I'm getting about 42MPG in town driving and on long trips I'm getting about 55-60MPG.

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I think the one variant we would alll say avoid is the diesel with the CVT autogearbox
See if it is the engine at Euro III emission level as the Level IV has an expensive DPF filter that requires changing at around 75K miles
Despite MJ's assertion unless you need the EPB I would avoid it as there have been several very expensive repairs noted on here
Do check front tyres for any evidence of the tracking needing doing

On things to wish for I think
The radio with the AUX button as opposed to the CDDJ unless it has the changer under the passenger seat
The Quickclear heated fron screen (an option even on the LX) and possibly the heated exterior mirrors
A spacesaver spare wheel as opposed to the spray filler
May like to look for one with Front & Rear parking sensors




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post #6 of 19 Old 03-28-2010, 10:26 AM Thread Starter
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Thanks for all the info
Unfortunatly the misses wants the auto gearbox (What she wants she normally gets) if it was me i'd go for the 2.0 diesel Manual.
Not sure if it has the EPB as am going to have a look at itlater this week.
It's a 05 1.6 TDCI, LX i think, with about 80,000 on the clock, it has a history and electric mirrors thats about as much as i know until i see it, suffice to say i will be having a good nose around before any money changes hands.
Will the DPF filter show up on a OBD scan? also is the DPF connected with this EGR valve problem i keep hearing about?
Thanks in advance, answers ona post card please :-)

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I would seriously think you ought to try googling for the number of almost horror stories that people have had with the early diesel CVT Auto combinations, such were the problems that Ford only made it available for a very short period.
There are issues with misfire and hesitation and clouds of black smoke due to software issues that have never really been sorted and Ford now don't want to know
There are issues with the operation of the CVT box itself
If anything goes wrong with the box (not unheard of) then all Fraud will want to do is to charge FOUR THOUSAND pounds to replace it. They won't repair tham and they don't make several of the necessary bits available for independent gearbox specialists to repair either

The DPF is further back down the exhaust and related to the EGR but not really connected as it achieves a related result but by a different method
You can identify the presence or otherwise of DPF by the engine emissions code in the bottom left of the VIN plate. If it is S then Euro II without DPF and if it is V then it is Euro IV with DPF
It might also be worth looking at digits 11& 12 of the VIN from which we can tell you year / month of manufacture




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Hello mate,I've had a 2.0tdci from new(5 years ago),I get about 40mpg on daily running around,but on the motorway the computer can show up to 65mpg at a steady 70,in 6th gear.MyDad has a 1.6tdci ,this does about an extra 10mpg compared to mine,on general running,but don't think its as good as mine on the motorway.They are both manual gearboxes.
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I think if it breaks yes the E.P.B can be exspensive to fix but so can many other things on the car also.

Example

I have needed two Air con pumps replacing on my car cost for each 405.71 lucky for me they were done under warrenty.

I needed a New window wiper assembley as the bolt were the window wiper attaches to snapped cost 200 for the part alone.

I needed a new rocker cover cost 100 for the part alone.

I needed the EGR valve replacing. I have read on here people paying up to 300 plus for this to be replaced. I was lucky ford did not charge me for labour due to many other issues I have had with the car but the part alone cost 140.

I needed a new boot trim that is just plastic the cost for that was 80.

I think if you want to go down the root of the E.P.B is one more thing on the car to go wrong so avoid it then yeh that is one way of thinking.

I think if your going down the root of avoid the E.P.B because it will cost you more than anything else on the car to replace if it goes wrong then dont bother. Theres alot on this car to go wrong and more than just the E.P.B that will cost you 100's of pounds to fix.



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Always make sure it`s altenator is putting out full power.If the car is over 2 years old,look to see if the alt has been replaced,if not it will probably need one v soon.
Also check the a/c works,if not it will need regasing.Check all electrics work (tip,if it`s got front fogs,on a test drive,put side/head & front & rear fogs on too,also heated screens & radio,if heated seats them also) the more that is on the more power is being pulled from the alt,if it`s ok nothing will happen,but if it`s got a fault this may well bring the battery light on & you can either walk away ortell them to get it fixed.
Good hunting.
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