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post #1 of 25 Old 06-14-2008, 03:01 PM Thread Starter
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Hi all,

My first post here, be gentle!!!

I have seen a Max im looking to buy, (its a TIT, 1.6 tdci)and has all the goodies I want, except one...cruise control.

Im coming from a Mk5 VW golf and had cruise retro fitted for £150 by the dealer. On the VW, its just a new indicator stalk with the necessary additional buttons, and get hooked up to the computer to be activated.

Would this be possible with a ford (It has the 4 spoke steering wheel, do the cruise buttons attcach behind it?)

All help appreciated, will hopefully be test driving tomorrow so speedy answers especially appriciated.

Cheers, Paul.
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post #2 of 25 Old 06-14-2008, 04:27 PM
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Not too sure about a retro fit but on the Focus C-Max, the controls are onboth sides of the steering wheel.

Perhaps have a further look around for one that has it fitted.
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hi paul i got a ghia c-max 2.ol tdci with cruise control as its the only way the wife will keep her licence. have a good look round and you may find a ghia for about the same price.

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fitting cruise controls on a Ford is more expensive then on other cars. You have to change the steering wheel, make some connections (and maybe install some sensors, for brake pedal, acceleration pedal and gear-box) and also make some changes to the computer.
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Smiley was about right on this (for me) C-Max 2L Titanium 2008, total cost approx £250 all new parts, if anyone needs / wants anymore details and what i needed to do i'd be happy to supply them, just email me or post here.
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HiI read with interest your message, I have a 2007 cmax titainium which i would like to fit cruise control. the aftermarket ones are very expensive, any advice would be appreciatedCheers Maxi
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post #7 of 25 Old 02-15-2012, 06:23 AM
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How I Retro fitted
cruise control to a 2008 2.0 TDCI Titanium<?: prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-comfficeffice" />



There is no guarantee this will work
for everyone, this is just how I did it. It would be interesting<?: prefix = u2 /><u2></u2>
if other members could post there results if they tried the same<?: prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-comfficeffice" />



There is a few tests I did first.




The Free bits.



1.
Put the car in Self-Diagnostic Mode. On my car it was hold the ā€œtripmeter reset buttonā€ in for about 5
seconds with the ignition switch off, this seems to be different on some cars,
sometimes you also need to simultaneously press and hold the tripmeter reset
button and turn the ignition switch to position II.

a.
Once in the Self-Diagnostic Mode, pushing the reset button cycles though
a number of test in turn.

b.
Of the tests this will do,
the one I was interested in was the ā€œAll LCD are illuminatedā€ that way I could
check the Cruise light in the dashboard was there.

2.
Check the Clutch & Brake pedals have all the switches, I was not
sure on what was right and what wasn't so I just checked nothing appeared to be
missing, no blank holders.

3.
Next check was to remove the airbag, This was the hardest part, make
sure you disconnect the
battery and leave the car for a bit to make sure
everything is discharged, I left it for about 5mins and then operated a few
switches to make sure.

4.
For me getting the airbag off was tricky.

a.
Turn the wheel 90 degrees left release the clip that holds the top cover
in place, it's a little black tab, the top cover should lift just a little on
the left.

b.
Turn the wheel to the top then 90 right and release the clip the holds
the right hand side of the cover.

c.
The top cover should now lift off.

d.
ON the rear of the steering wheel there was 4 slots where you need to
insert a small screw driver and release the airbag clips, in the Haynes manual
it said to insert small screw driver and push down, I used an "Allen key" and had to pull up. Basically there is four clips
you need to release.

5.
Next check was to check the ā€œclockspringā€ had the pins in the plug, I
know your next question what is the ā€œclockspringā€, it's the bit under the
airbag everything electrical plugs into, you are interested in the top
connection, the bottom one is not used, at least not in my car.

6.
The pins you are interested in are in the same plug as the horn, a black
plug about 15mm wide, unplug it and check the pins are there, ready for the new
plug that come with the cruise switch.

7.
If everything appears to be in order and you want to carry on.



Now it starts costing money.



8.
Not being able to find a new cruise control steering wheel on eBay at
the right price I opted to buy a new switch set from Ford, FINS Code 1425196 a
paid £65, This ended up being the right option, yes Ok I ended up with the
cruise all working but the plastic cover on the rear of the steering wheel is
different for the switch version and you can't get this on its own, so ended up
getting a whole new steering wheel form fords with the switches for £75 Fins
Code 1502430, work that one out!

9.
After I plugged in the Cruise control switches there is one more test
you can do to make sure the wiring is there before your trip to Fords to get
the system enabled.

a.
http://www.fordwiki.co.uk/index.php/GEM_Module_Self_Diagnostics

b.
Press & hold the rear window heater switch.

c.
While holding the rear window switch down turn on the ignition &
then release the rear window switch

d.
( If done correctly a signal sounds & the indicator warning lights
will illuminate to show your now in the test mode )

e.
Now when pushing each cruise switch you should hear a bleep.

10. If
your still here at this point the next thing is a trip to Fords to get the
system enabled, this cost me £95 and only took approx. an hour or so they said,
I think more like 30mins max.

11. I
didn't refit the airbag until this point as I wasn't sure which steering wheel
I was going to use, all depended on the results.

12. For
me it all worked so just fitted the airbag and top cover and all happy.



Cost £170 (or it should have been
if I hadn't paid for an extra set of switches)



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Thanks for your reply DrGMuch appreciated. You are obviously a talented person! It looks a daunting task to someone like me!! It is obviously worth it so will try to give it a go! Is it worth getting the Hayes manual for guidance?
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Hi Maxi<?: prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-comfficeffice" />

The Hayes manual
is good for reference, worth getting from eBay a lot cheaper there.

but to be honest I only used it for the Airbag
removal and it didn't cover that bit very well at all,



All in all, it's not a hard job, but you won't know
that it will work until it does, if you know what I mean. It did for me.

Not a sure thing but if it's an option on your
model the odds might be in your favor



Keep an eye
on ebay for a cruise control steering wheel, there was one the other day for
around £30 but it sold almost straight away.



The key
Step is the second test when you plug the switches in and run the bleep test,
as that confirms the wiring is there, I don't think there are 2 versions of the
GEM ā€œmoduleā€ or ā€œClock-Springsā€, so if you pick up a cruise control steering
wheel cheap and the test fails just sell it again, little to no loss


2008 2.0 TDCI Titanium
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post #10 of 25 Old 04-13-2012, 03:59 PM
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Hi, this is my first post here.

About 6 weeks ago i bought a C-Max 2008 Titanium, it came fully loaded with only two exceptions Automatic climate control & cruise control. After reading here i thought i'd try retrofitting.

I bought a steering wheel from the local Ford dealer (cost £70 approx) and after a bit of a struggle managed to get the original steering wheel off. Fitted the new one, did all the tests and it all looked good.

The steering wheen passed the GEMS test. Today i took the car to the local dealership to get the PCM etc enabled from cruise control, which they did. However the cruise control still doesnt function. They did tell me that the steering angle sensor was reporting a fault ..

Does anybody have any ideas on where to go from here ?

Thanks
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