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post #1 of 9 Old 10-22-2010, 11:58 PM Thread Starter
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Just fitting one of them long bar lights with 3 spot lights on and this ones confused the crap out of me! the light is now permanently on when you turn the fuse box on, the switch does sod all so we've turned off the lighting circuit for the night and are sitting in darkness!!!


Light has a chopping block in with 4 positions
1. Live
2. Earth
3. Neutral
4. Loop/Switch?


I've worked out which is the switch from the red collar on the wiring and have the red+black in number 4.


the 2 blacks are in number 3


the 2 reds are in number 1 and


the 3 earths are in number 2


anyone know what i'm doing wrong (apart from messing with stuff i don't understand!!!) or have any ideas???


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post #2 of 9 Old 10-23-2010, 12:26 AM
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Off to work in abit. I can help you tomorrow if you need it.

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Didnt read all your post, the two reds should go in the loop and the switch wire in the live. Sorry for the first post.

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Ross, it sounds like you have messed up your switch wires. A normal light will have a live feed, a neutral and an earth. These go to the light (ceiling rose for example), then there will be another cable which goes from the live feed to the switch. The other core of this cable will then become live when switch is closed (and may be marked in some way). This "new" feed then goes to the terminal on your light that is connected to the bulb holder. There may also be another cable that then feeds another light in a differnet room

Hope this is clear enough to understand.................


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this is the wiring, its all just lives, earths n neutrals

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Looks like you have the red and black going to the switch in the same terminal thats why its doing nothing. I would move the two reds from 1 to 4 with the red that is already there and move the black from 4 to 1 as I think this is the live returning from the switch.

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Just fitting one of them long bar lights with 3 spot lights on and this ones confused the crap out of me! the light is now permanently on when you turn the fuse box on, the switch does sod all so we've turned off the lighting circuit for the night and are sitting in darkness!!!


Light has a chopping block in with 4 positions
1. Live
2. Earth
3. Neutral
4. Loop/Switch?Many thanks
Did you manage to solve this
If not then to start with you ought to have two lengths of twin and earth lighting cable coming through the hole in the ceiling
You need to identify which is the one going to the switch
You can put all the Earth's together
You can attach Live & Neutral from the supply feed to the terminals marked Live & Neutral in the "chocolate block"
Attach the Live from the cable going to the switch to the Loop/ Switch terminal and the remaining Neutral to the Neutral terminal in the "choccy"
So as it all works properly the lights themselves will have to be connected between the live and the Loop / switch

do make certain for no stray earthed wires before turning the power on and make certain nobody can touch any bare wires either





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all sorted!!!


the so called live was meant to be switch live (the black one) then the non live/earth/neutral position was for the loop lives

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