I have already discussed the subject of the boot enhancing the road noise it is a large box shaped boot I have been running the car without the parcel shelf,,I'll replace it tomorrow see if that makes a difference,,,somebody stated also that they thought there was a window slightly open the wind noise is caused by the tops of the front doors sometimes its there it must depend on which way the wind is also blowing, I read about this in an article which was written by some critic. At first I thought I was hearing things but it seems it is just a design fault[img]smileys/smiley18.gif[/img]