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post #1 of 7 Old 05-15-2012, 11:30 AM Thread Starter
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Hello Im looking at a 2006 2.0 diesel tomorrow 65,000 miles was looking forward to test drive but have read a lot of negative reviews on here! Is it a wise decision to be looking at c-max or should i look else where? That should be cmax in title!
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post #2 of 7 Old 05-15-2012, 01:16 PM
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Hi Dannyh, i own a 56 reg 2.0lt tdci ghia and very happy with it in every respect, there is good and bad in every vehicle, the 2.0ltr tdci engine in my opinion is the pick of the the c-max range including mpg/performance, go take the test drive you will be amazed how quick that 2.0ltr tdci engine is you wont be disappointed. and like with all things as long as its serviced regular and looked after you should have many years happy motoring, yes things can go wrong but name me a car that's doesn't and 100% never goes wrong!!

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thanks for the reply! i know what your saying, our current car is a renault megane 1.6 petrol had it 4 years ish and had nothing but trouble with it! from major electrical problems to water pooling in the door cards! before that had a 99 T plate focus and had 3/4 years trouble free motoring, hence looking at ford again. fingers crossed for tomorrow!
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You would have problems with it, it's French. God I hope the 2 litre cmax engine has no French influence like the smaller engines have.
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It's actually a very successful PSA derived engine which is is also found in Citroens, Peugeots and some Volvos I believe. Possibly also some Suzukis. I don't see why anyone has problems with French cars! At least they still have a motor industry of their own! Unlike us! There are some absolute horror stories on this forum, same as any, from people who have had nothing but trouble with their cars. You never hear a dicky bird from the people who just get in each morning and drive to work and back without problems. I had 3 Xantias and a Picasso and about 13 trouble free years beween them all. The very reason I bought the CMax was for the absolutely first class engine, which was unavailable in The C4 Picasso in manual form until recently! Ihave had 9 trouble fre months from the Max so far.......and counting!

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So what your're saying Budgie is that its a French built engine????
Hold on a minute whilst I bang my head against a wall and pull my fingernails out......Ahhhhhhhhhhhh!
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Not necessarily built in France. No idea where actually but may even be Dagenham. I think there's still a Ford engine plant there. What I said was that the engine was PSA derived in that it was co-developed by PSA & Ford as a joint venture.
There's a lot of it about. The engines in the current MINI are also PSA engines although the more powerful Cooper and JCW petrol ones had a fair bit of BMW input. They're also found in the DS3 and other Citroens. The Diesels are pure PSA. I'm not sure if they've managed to shoehorn the 2.0 into the MINI but they certainly use the 1.6's. Much was made of the first model MINI having BMW "Quality". I think everyone assumed it was a BMW engine under the bonnet. What it actually was, was an old Proton unit built under licence in Brazil!!
The Diesels now found in Vauxhalls are actually Fiat units. Just as well actually, their own offerings were probably actually worse than Fords! Anybody remember the original 1.6 Diesels found in Astras and Cavaliers in the '80s? GOD!! Rough wasn't in it, and the "Enduro" found in Escorts etc wasn't much better. Stepping out of one of those into a Diesel Pug or Citroen was like chalk and cheese. A veritable shrine to silence in comparison!
Rover also used PSA diesel engines in the early 200/400 series cars. They said it was because their own diesel, the 2.0 "Prima" developed from the "O" series 2.0 by Perkins wasn't refined enough. I had one in my last Montego and thought it was perfectly acceptable. Being one of the first direct injection car diesels, you were in no doubt about what fuel it drank, but it was a LOT more economical (AND torquey) than the PSA XUD they actually fitted to the others.
So! The engine is from a company with many years experience in producing successful automotive diesels which have been used by many car makers. Where's the problem exactly?????

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